Bowie County Clerk who faces Jail for defending the ‘Pledge of Allegiance’ speaks out
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According to Chet Nichols, Husband of the Bowie County Clerk Natalie Nichols, Bowie County, TX District attorney’s office is wrapping the case up, but changing the modus operandi. Now they claim that Natalie Nichols was the one that left things out of theCommissioner Court meeting minutes.
Basically they have put the blame on her, which proves to me that the whole case is a set up to get Natalie out of office and replace her with an ACLU ducking democrat. See my column from yesterday on WordPress as well as on Amarillo Examiner.
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She is a loving mother and devoted wife, proud American, great patriot, and good Christian. And that is exactly the spirit Natalie Nichols, Bowie County, Texas clerk who faces not only loss of Job, but also Jail time and an insane amount of money in fines shows in an interview.
I sent her a few questions on her case, and once again she surprised me. Natalie is a true American. Instead of sadness, self-doubt, or fear of the uncertainty of her future she shows the typical fighting spirit of a true American, of a true Texan and still encourages others to stand up and fight and take a stand for everything dear to the American People and the American Character.
Natalie Nichols, Bowie County Clerk - Texas
Natalie Nichols Interview is original.
Questionary to Natalie Nichols.
NN:
I first want to let you know that the Judge and the Court have changed their tune on the issue of the Prayer and Pledge. They voted to remove both on June 13th, but since then, they have gotten pressure and they have changed their agenda to now include the Prayer, a devotional, and a Pledge. I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of that. You don’t have to print that word for word, but I just wanted to throw that in there.
TL:
You are facing up to 6 months of jail time, $2,000 Dollars in fines, and the loss of your job for taking a stand for the “Pledge of Allegiance” and the opening prayer. Many brave men and women have given their life to defend those principles, how does that make you feel at the moment?
NN: Many brave men and women have given their lives to stand up for God and country and to give us the freedoms that we hold so dear in this country. It is for that reason that I had no choice but to stand up. Their sacrifice was so much greater than anything that I could ever give. To me, standing up on principle is part of being an American; I don’t know any different.
TL:
This entire case against you smells fishy, and the way it is being handled sounds to me more like a set-up. Let’s face it; you are the first fiscal conservative County clerk in Bowie County for 12 years. Do you believe this is revenge to get you out of office and re-install a Democrat as county clerk?
NN: Unfortunately the story playing out here is not unusual in local politics. A group of powerful people gets entrenched and after they’ve held onto that power for a number of years, they will fight dirty if anyone dares to challenge them. The intimidation and scare-tactics are meant to make average, every day citizens think twice about entering public office. It is politics as
usual, but only because we’ve allowed it for so long. The good ole boys will only behave that way until we stand up and demand better. I’ve been told, “That’s just politics.” Well not on my watch.
TL:
I looked at online posted County Commissioner Meeting documents and the Pledge as well as the invocation was always on it. Why do you think they waited until you were in Dallas on training to make this bold move to remove the Pledge and the invocation of the Commissioner Court meetings?
NN: I honestly think that it never occurred to them that I would speak up. The good ole boys are not used to someone calling them out on their actions and holding them accountable. I think that they simply thought they would make a bit of a power play with the County Clerk to put her in her place. They didn’t stop to think of the “unintended consequences” of messing with the
Prayer and the Pledge. We take those things very seriously in this country.
TL:
Has the County Sheriff’s office ever explained to you why they never questioned you about the case before turning it over to the
District Attorney?
NN: I talked to someone with the Sheriff’s office today. They explained that they are making the recommendation to send it to the Grand Jury to remove the District Attorney and the Judge from the equation. It depends who you talk to. Some say that is true and some say it isn’t. I just have to trust that God has a plan and that regardless of the outcome, it will be part of His plan for me. The struggles we face in life seem like mountains at the time; but in the grand scheme of things they’re only speed bumps. They build character and make us stronger.
TL:
Judge Lacey, a self declared Conservative, officially admits that he does not put “Items” such as the Pledge and/or invocations on the Agenda out of “fear for the ACLU”. By taking away this authority from County clerks those RINO’s can bow before the radical ACLU mafia and avoid being sued.
Texas Law clearly gives the authority to add Minutes exclusive to the County Clerk. Do you think they are using you and your career as a pawn sacrifice to produce a case of creative precedence to take this authority away from the county clerk?
That way they could kill two birds with one stone: Fighting this all the way through to the Texas Supreme Court would be hard on you and your family. Maybe they are hoping to break your spirit and get you to resign before putting your family at risk which would pave the way in giving your office back to a Democrat?
NN: I have no doubt that the complaint filed against me is an attempt to intimidate me. Intimidation is the name of the game. If you’re worried that you will spend 6 months in jail and an insane amount of money trying to defend against that possibility, you will probably think twice about making your voice heard. At least that’s what the goal is. I’m not built that way. If I see wrong; I say it. If I hear wrong, I say it. Right is right and wrong is wrong and it doesn’t take holding an elected office to understand that basic premise. We teach it to our kids every day.
TL:
You are not the only fiscal conservative Patriot that is under attack these days. Governor Rick Perry faces a law suit for his call
for a national day of prayer for our battered nation. The Houston VA Cemetery is violating first amendment rights by prohibiting the use of God and Jesus in ceremonies. Just a few weeks ago Texans were trying to break the power of the TSA in Texas. Do you think that those partially open, and in your case, backdoor attacks are by design to break the conservative, patriotic Christian spirit of Texas?
NN: As Americans, our way of life is under attack. Our very belief system is being struck at from all angles and we can either sit by and let it happen or we can stand up and say, “Not on my watch.” I applaud Governor Perry for the prayer rallies he’s supporting. I was disgusted when I heard of the assault on the religion of the families of grieving Veterans in Houston. Political correctness has taken us down a path of supporting anything but American ideals. We don’t have to hide from who we are. America is beautiful. The people who have reached out to me just to offer a word of wisdom and encouragement and good old fashioned “We stand with you!” are examples to me of everything that is right in this world. More than anything, the outpouring of support for God and Country here locally and seeing so many Patriots stand up for our beliefs and ideals on the nationwide landscape has been an inspiration to me.
TL:
Natalie – this will be posted on Word press as well as on Amarillo Examiner and distributed all over the Internet all over the
country. If you could tell all my readers anything you wanted please feel free to do so. What can we do to help you and support you?
NN: When this issue first arose in my county, I saw it unfolding and I knew that there were risks involved in standing up. We’re human. It crosses our mind that when we take a stand, it might not be popular. We wonder if we’ll be the only one. We wonder, when we stand up, if it will really make a difference. And in that thirty second time frame, we come to a realization that some things are bigger than we are. The prayer and pledge are two of those things. One man with courage is a majority. I have not been alone. There are people all over the nation who have contacted me to say “We’re with you.” And it’s times like these when the words of our pledge ring so clear and so true. We are one nation under God. We are indivisible. We are Americans.
If you would like to help support me, I would simply ask that you stand up yourself, wherever you are. If you see an injustice taking place, understand that you are not alone, and be heard.
TL:
Thanks for your time in answering these questions and thank you for everything you do. God bless you, you are a great Patriot and role model.
Natalie Nichols
© Tom Lehner: Natalie Nichols contributed to this interview via email. Her answers copy/paste and passed on in original. I
have not held anything back and the original answers are saved as .pdf file.
Sources:
Mexican Killer shouts “Viva Mexico” when Executed
Justice has been served.
Humberto Leal Garcia, Mexican National, who was convicted of the rape and murder of a 16 year old teenager in Texas, has been executed in Huntsville, Texason Thursday July 7th 2011 at 6.21 p.m. – PRAISE THE LORD.
According to Fox News his final words were not meant to apologize to the family left behind or any word of regret:
As a matter of fact his final words were a spit in the face of everybody present by screaming “Viva Mexico”, Fox News reports.
So far so good – Of course the left wing liberal biased media is now off their heads with this execution, especially since President Obama personally tried to call Governor Perry for leniency on behalf of this illegal Criminal.
At this moment I would like to thank Governor Rick Perry for rejecting this phone call.
It is bad enough that the President of the United Statesworries more about the well being of a criminal foreign national, a rapist and murderer of an innocent teenager, than the safety and security of his own country.
There is a lot of wrong information out there about the rights of foreign countries in criminal trials.
First – Of course every person of foreign nationality who is accused of a crime in the State ofTexas is entitled to contact his Home country.
But this is the way it works: He can either ask his lawyers to contact the consulate or ask prison guards to provide the proper phone numbers so he can call the embassy himself. Telephones are available in everyTexasCountyprison and Texas Prison Guards have those numbers and hand them out.
Second – The Government seems to have a problem in understanding the 10th Amendment of theUnited States and the State independency. Crimes are a State Issue and this was aTexas issue.
Third – We are notCalifornia who has some strange love affair with illegal criminals fromMexico. We inTexas have clear rules: You do the crime; you do the time, and then get the hell out ofTexas.
Fourth – The accused lived inTexas since he was two years old and he was aware of Texas Law. Nevertheless, every foreign national that comes into our country and especially in our state is bound to get informed what is allowed and what is not.
Murder and rape is a crime in every country in the world and the whole world knows that in Texaswe have either “Life in Prison without possibility of parole” or in extreme cases like this the “death penalty”.
You don’t like the sentence don’t commit the crime – it is as simple as that.
And last but not least, fifth – 1963 Vienna Convention of Consular Relations only clarifies the rules that apply to installed consular representation. As a matter of fact, Consulates are only to get involved
a) if humans rights of accused foreign nationals are violatet
b) International agreements of suspects of foreign countries are violated
c) And according to Article 5, (g) (i) to provide or organize proper legal representation for suspects and accused of foreign nationality.
(g) safeguarding the interests of nationals, both individuals and bodies corporate, of the sending States in cases of succession mortis causa in the territory of the receiving State, in accordance with the laws and regulations of the receiving State;
(i) subject to the practices and procedures obtaining in the receiving State, representing or arranging appropriate representation for nationals of the sending State before the tribunals and other authorities of the receiving State, for the purpose of obtaining, in accordance with the laws and regulations of the receiving State, provisional measures for the preservation of the rights and interests of these nationals, where, because of absence or any other reason, such nationals are unable at the proper time to assume the defence of their rights and interests;
And let’s be honest, illegal Mexicans inTexas, and there are more of them than Rattlesnakes, have a variety of legal Spanish speaking representation.
Cliff Herbert, District Attorney of Bexar County, said it very well in a fox news interview: The accused had the best of Legal representation possible. Legal representation normally only rich people can afford.
Justice has been served – Texas Justice
Don’t mess withTexas
God blessTexas
Source:
- Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/07/white-house-seeks-delay-mexican-mans-execution-as-supreme-court-mulls-case/ - UN Treaty: 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relation http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/9_2_1963.pdf http://www.scribd.com/doc/59607102
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